LOL -- but seriously, I heard or read once that excess protein is simply excreted out. I also read, much more often, that excess protein becomes fat (and I thought only excess carbs can become fat).
So what, exactly, is excreted in the form of feces? (If you must quip -- please make it funny, at least.) I know most of it is intestinal bacteria, but what exactly is the "waste"?? Okay, fiber, and make that grit of sand which wasn't washed off from your lettuce...but what else?
I ask 'cause it seems awfully wasteful if excess protein is what's excreted...at the same time, I guess that's better than the body building more fat cells to imprision it! Such a chore getting all three things -- training, diet, and rest -- right at the same time regularly over the long-haul....
Extra calories, regardless of their makeup, are stored in the body as fat. It would be nice if the extra would be excreted, but that isn't how it works.
Excess of certain vitamins will be excreted. But those hardly make you fat anyways.
-- Annie
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> LOL -- but seriously, I heard or read once that excess protein is > simply excreted out. I also read, much more often, that excess protein > becomes fat (and I thought only excess carbs can become fat).
> So what, exactly, is excreted in the form of feces? (If you must quip > -- please make it funny, at least.) I know most of it is intestinal > bacteria, but what exactly is the "waste"?? Okay, fiber, and make that > grit of sand which wasn't washed off from your lettuce...but what else?
> I ask 'cause it seems awfully wasteful if excess protein is what's > excreted...at the same time, I guess that's better than the body > building more fat cells to imprision it! Such a chore getting all > three things -- training, diet, and rest -- right at the same time > regularly over the long-haul....
Here is my understanding... and please correct me if I am wrong...
Any extra calories, regardless from where, are stored as fat. Protein is the most difficult for the body to digest, so even if you consume more than you need, it has a sort of thermogenic effect in that it takes more calories to digest. Still, if you consume more calories than the body needs, it will be stored as fat.
The body can synthesize it's own fat and simple carbs for energy uses, but it cannot synthesize it's own amino acids (the building blocks of muscle) so the only source of that is protein.
In article <1158946082.407848.212...@d34g2000cwd.googlegroups.com>, "NYC XYZ" <jack_foreig...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> LOL -- but seriously, I heard or read once that excess protein is > simply excreted out. I also read, much more often, that excess protein > becomes fat (and I thought only excess carbs can become fat).
> So what, exactly, is excreted in the form of feces? (If you must quip > -- please make it funny, at least.) I know most of it is intestinal > bacteria, but what exactly is the "waste"?? Okay, fiber, and make that > grit of sand which wasn't washed off from your lettuce...but what else?
> I ask 'cause it seems awfully wasteful if excess protein is what's > excreted...at the same time, I guess that's better than the body > building more fat cells to imprision it! Such a chore getting all > three things -- training, diet, and rest -- right at the same time > regularly over the long-haul....
If your sweat smells like ammonia, you are probably over-doing it.
I'm not kidding...... -- Peace! Om
"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a bitch" -- Jack Nicholson
> > LOL -- but seriously, I heard or read once that excess protein is > > simply excreted out. I also read, much more often, that excess protein > > becomes fat (and I thought only excess carbs can become fat).
> > So what, exactly, is excreted in the form of feces? (If you must quip > > -- please make it funny, at least.) I know most of it is intestinal > > bacteria, but what exactly is the "waste"?? Okay, fiber, and make that > > grit of sand which wasn't washed off from your lettuce...but what else?
> > I ask 'cause it seems awfully wasteful if excess protein is what's > > excreted...at the same time, I guess that's better than the body > > building more fat cells to imprision it! Such a chore getting all > > three things -- training, diet, and rest -- right at the same time > > regularly over the long-haul....
> Here is my understanding... and please correct me if I am wrong...
> Any extra calories, regardless from where, are stored as fat. Protein is > the most difficult for the body to digest, so even if you consume more than > you need, it has a sort of thermogenic effect in that it takes more calories > to digest. Still, if you consume more calories than the body needs, it will > be stored as fat.
> The body can synthesize it's own fat and simple carbs for energy uses, but > it cannot synthesize it's own amino acids (the building blocks of muscle) so > the only source of that is protein.
What's the conventional wisdom on protein consumption on "off" days? I understand it's most effective to take protein supplement right before or after working out. Does this mean that one shouldn't or doesn't need to on days that they aren't working out?
> In article <1158946082.407848.212...@d34g2000cwd.googlegroups.com>, > "NYC XYZ" <jack_foreig...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > LOL -- but seriously, I heard or read once that excess protein is > > simply excreted out. I also read, much more often, that excess protein > > becomes fat (and I thought only excess carbs can become fat).
> > So what, exactly, is excreted in the form of feces? (If you must quip > > -- please make it funny, at least.) I know most of it is intestinal > > bacteria, but what exactly is the "waste"?? Okay, fiber, and make that > > grit of sand which wasn't washed off from your lettuce...but what else?
> > I ask 'cause it seems awfully wasteful if excess protein is what's > > excreted...at the same time, I guess that's better than the body > > building more fat cells to imprision it! Such a chore getting all > > three things -- training, diet, and rest -- right at the same time > > regularly over the long-haul....
> If your sweat smells like ammonia, you are probably over-doing it.
> I'm not kidding...... > --
Hey Om, overdoing the protein intake if your sweat smells like ammonia? Mine does and I wondered why. I need to look into my diet then which is lean chicken mostly, and vegetables or salad. Are there any specific foodstuffs that are known to cause this situation?
> > > LOL -- but seriously, I heard or read once that excess protein is > > > simply excreted out. I also read, much more often, that excess protein > > > becomes fat (and I thought only excess carbs can become fat).
> > > So what, exactly, is excreted in the form of feces? (If you must quip > > > -- please make it funny, at least.) I know most of it is intestinal > > > bacteria, but what exactly is the "waste"?? Okay, fiber, and make that > > > grit of sand which wasn't washed off from your lettuce...but what else?
> > > I ask 'cause it seems awfully wasteful if excess protein is what's > > > excreted...at the same time, I guess that's better than the body > > > building more fat cells to imprision it! Such a chore getting all > > > three things -- training, diet, and rest -- right at the same time > > > regularly over the long-haul....
> > If your sweat smells like ammonia, you are probably over-doing it.
> > I'm not kidding...... > > --
> Hey Om, overdoing the protein intake if your sweat smells like ammonia? Mine > does and I wondered why. > I need to look into my diet then which is lean chicken mostly, and > vegetables or salad. > Are there any specific foodstuffs that are known to cause this situation?
Just watch the amounts. :-)
Wasted protein is wasted money.......
And I know I sure as hell cannot afford it! -- Peace! Om
"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a bitch" -- Jack Nicholson
> Hey Om, overdoing the protein intake if your sweat smells like ammonia? Mine > does and I wondered why. > I need to look into my diet then which is lean chicken mostly, and > vegetables or salad. > Are there any specific foodstuffs that are known to cause this situation?
The ammonia smell is a noted characteristic of the Atkins diet. Eat Protein and fat but little or no carbohydrate. Atkins preached only having a small amount of carbohydrate so that the ammonia - as I understand it caused by breakdown of stored fat, but I will go back to my chemistry and biology books to check this - is still passed out of the body.
Now that I have just re-read this I think I should check my facts which I can't do right now. I may post an update / correction tomorrow. You may find something related to this at www.fita2z.com
"wiseway.info" <analyt...@wiseway.info> wrote: > mike wrote:
> > Hey Om, overdoing the protein intake if your sweat smells like ammonia? Mine > > does and I wondered why. > > I need to look into my diet then which is lean chicken mostly, and > > vegetables or salad. > > Are there any specific foodstuffs that are known to cause this situation?
> The ammonia smell is a noted characteristic of the Atkins diet. Eat > Protein and fat but little or no carbohydrate. Atkins preached only > having a small amount of carbohydrate so that the ammonia - as I > understand it caused by breakdown of stored fat, but I will go back to > my chemistry and biology books to check this - is still passed out of > the body.
> Now that I have just re-read this I think I should check my facts which > I can't do right now. I may post an update / correction tomorrow. You > may find something related to this at www.fita2z.com
As far as I know, protein (and ammonia) are nitrogen based...
Fat isn't. ;-)
Please correct me if I am mistaken, but I don't think that ketones are responsible for ammonia smelling sweat? -- Peace! Om
"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a bitch" -- Jack Nicholson
